Masked Men With Gun Rob 4 in 2 Hours

Robin W December 7, 2012 at 06:52 pm

Where were the police when the 10 pm robbery took place? I hope they were in parks and on greenbelts, considering there were 2 robberies between 8:00 and 8:30 pm.

The Higher the Deeper December 7, 2012 at 08:02 pm

So much for California's Social Experiment forcing low income subsidized housing into affluent areas. Socializm does not elevate social dysfunction it harms the functional. Lets put the Predators in the middle of Academics who cannot, will not defend themselves and hope the predator's will choose to become canaries. I say it is a recipe for killing off some of the smartest people in society in favor of the sycophants.

jose emanuel guadalupe el rodriquez salazar jr...the 3rd December 7, 2012 at 10:26 pm

BETTER YET WTF CAN'T THE MEDIA GIVE US THE COMPLETE DESCRIPTION OF THE SUSPECTS SO WE CAN CALL THE POLICE IF WE SEE SUSPECTS WHO MATCH THE DESCRIPTION! THE MEDIA COSIDERS IT POLITICALY INCORRECT TO INCLUDE THE DESCRIPTION SO WHY BOTHER TO GIVE US ANY DESCRIPTION AT ALL! THEY THEN ASK US TO NOTIFY THE POLECE IF WE SOMEONE WHO MATCHES THE DESCRIPTION?!

Staying Anonymous December 8, 2012 at 01:20 am

I hope these f*&$!ers try to rob me when I'm out with my Glock .40 walking my trained personal protection dog.

Staying Anonymous December 8, 2012 at 01:22 am

Oh, by the way, some Davis residents do carry, and do know how to defend themselves.

Soup December 8, 2012 at 04:42 pm

I am not sure what scares me more, the robberies or many of these responses. There is no evidence that these robbers didn't cruise in from elsewhere, oh island of priveledge connected by freeway to the rest of the world. If we are so smart, perhaps we should be solving the financial and other disparities that lead to violent crime, rather than hiding in the ivory tower with Glocks.

The Higher the Deeper December 9, 2012 at 05:50 am

To a large extent it is not financial disparity. Perpetrators are often young capable men who can work, but choose not to because they are not compliant enough socially. (anti-social) Nothing will fix genetic sociopathy except incarceration. Why we let them out even when we know they are sociopaths is beyond me.

The Skipper December 9, 2012 at 07:37 am

all this is true, but in the end Davis should have better patrols, I come from a low-income & high crime area, and even there 2 gunmen wouldn't been able to cause a problem. Davis police need to learn to step up a notch and realize that with Stockton and Sacramento falling, crime will be rising here.

Roberto December 9, 2012 at 08:36 pm

Davis PD fails the 'Catch the Bad Guy' test once again. But Hey! do the math. What creates more revenue? A traffic ticket or busting a bad guy. Right - It costs a lot of money to bust a bad guy, but pulling over Davis Citizens for stop sign or a signal light violation? Yep, it's money in the bank. This makes me rethink the comment on the Glock idea. I like it.

The Higher the Deeper December 9, 2012 at 09:39 pm

These comments show the anger brewing over constant interference by our govt in our daily lives,Yet they fail their jobs in the critical areas.BTW, I'm low income backgrd.I'm not saying don't good people a leg up,but we aren't making the "good" distinction.Instead we allow good people to be exposed. Govt Pushes predators on us, making us prey.Social programs arn't used wisely.Theyre enacted by lazy, unqualified people taking short cuts.We get unintended results. I'm ok with good people moving in next door, I'm not ok with grandma (however nice) who will let her crip grandson & his bros.move in. So they can rob & beat & maybe kill the zoology prof. on his way to campus.I can see the unintended results coming almost everytime. I'm not the smartest person on earth. Lesson 1, there's always someone smarter. (clearly not the politician, lawmaker class, not at the moment anyway) Survival of the fitest; who is smarter or stronger, or both. The predators are winning &the bleeding hearts don't get the need to protect their loved ones or the survival quotient. Hitler killed the academics in the early days. The gentle pacifists.We need to wake up & examine the erosion of our rights.This policy interferes with our right to be free.Free to work hard to attain a better standard of living for our families.We work hard to move from undesirable dangerous areas. The govt.moves predators next door? using my tax dollars, exposing my children to danger.Life,Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness?

Kenya Mitchell December 9, 2012 at 11:49 pm

Who says the residents of the local low income housing committed this crime? I hate to break it to you, but a lot of low income Davis residents are GRADUATE students. These people could be from Woodland, Vacaville or Sacramento for all we know. Thieves have cars too. Take your horrendous class-
ism somewhere else!

The Higher the Deeper December 10, 2012 at 01:14 am

I said 'Good People' vs the Criminals. I made it clear that the bureaucracy has put these programs in place fail to make the distinction. Unfortunately, real life has used wealth to make those separations to Create "better' Communities. Work on your reading comprehension. Social programs have to work on foundational social programs that enable people to be functional rather than dysfunctional. Not force the issue by location. Why do you pick Woodland,VacaVille as your first hand second choice; is it because you are making a judgement about the type of people or level of crime in those areas? (not Dixon,Fairfield, Napa, Danville) That is Classism. Or is it just an awareness that there is a danger there.More Crime. It makes no difference the program hits those Communities too.So the Communities with the most growth will have bigger issues with this program.

The Higher the Deeper December 10, 2012 at 02:43 am

It is a bit arrogant and to compare Graduate students to the truly poor, Unless they actually are the poor elevating themselves from their origins. I was just that. If you come from that all you want to do is escape and even after you elevate yourself educationally you are still not part of the club. There are glass ceilings of all kinds. FOR: Women, Gays, the Deaf, Blacks, etc,.etc. I was white and poor and I never had enough to eat from the time I was a child all the way through college (UC Davis). I survived on the charity of the Catholic Church where I could get a bowl of soup and a roll for lunch occasionally. There was not much money for poor white women.(prior to the Supreme cout decision on title 9). I could have had a sports scholarship had I gone through later. So don't preach on classism unless you have have standing and understanding to do so. I worked hard to make a better life for my children. I love the notion of bringing the barrio here and sticking it down the road from me using the money I worked hard for. The do gooders don't get that those of us who wore ourselves out working and who went without food to escape that do not appreciate the entitled who get a free ride. And are now here in my face endangering my sanctuary. I have not felt safe on the central bike paths for 5 or 6 years. Don't tell me some of the low income housing is not taken by predatory types. I see them.

Staying Anonymous December 12, 2012 at 02:50 pm

Inane comment above. I'm not sure what percentage of Davis residents are university researchers or professors, but I'm not. I like it here because it's clean, friendly, and safe, and my kids' schools are good. I'm not "hiding in the ivory tower", and I'm not willing to wait for the Davis PD to come and put a chalk line around someone after the out-of-town bad guys lose their cool and kill someone. If the LEOs are flying their 'copter over my house looking for a bad guy on the greenbelt next door, I'll be carrying a handgun if I go out for a walk, and the shotgun will be out of the safe and loaded.
I'm not a right-wing 2nd amendment nut job, and I don't stay awake worrying about violent crime. I'm just going to stay prepared to defend myself and my neighbors if necessary. If more people thought this way, the bad guys would be more reluctant to pick random victims.

Staying Anonymous December 12, 2012 at 03:07 pm

Yeah, I know, I'm the armed loose cannon. But I'm sorry, "The Higher the Deeper", not only are your spelling, grammar, punctuation, and syntax atrocious, but you really do sound like a crazy person.
What happened on the greenbelt was a reckless act by an isolated pair of morons begging to get shot by an armed citizen. Centralized government and a dictator from 67 years ago probably don't have a lot to do with this incident.

Staying Anonymous December 12, 2012 at 03:10 pm

I agree with The Skipper, but I'm not sure how the cops could catch a@$holes like the greenbelt robbers. I'm not defending the competence of the Davis PD because they often seem pretty lame and slow to respond. When they do respond, they've seemed just as likely to find some way to fault the victim for having been robbed/broken into/car stolen, etc. One day in broad daylight I watched as a cop car and a motorcycle officer cruised slowly past the guy they were looking for on the greenbelt, without even seeing him. I called it in, was told by dispatch they'd be back within 5 minutes but it took them more than twenty minutes to arrive. They sent one lone female officer, who gave the prowler a 15 minute counseling session on reconsidering his life and sent him on his way. The guy was mentally ill, according to the LEO. If he hops the fence into my yard, I won't be in a big hurry to call the dogs back into the house.

The Higher the Deeper December 12, 2012 at 03:54 pm

If you speak to the Davis Police Department you will find that this is not an isolated incident.(I have) Crime on the bike paths and green areas has been trending upward. As far as my spelling and punctuation: this has been abbreviated, left out, letters left out of words to meet the character limitations of this medium. This is accepted practice in the social media world. There are less RULES. So, Dear English Prof., I was not submitting a dissertation. I agree with those who suggest that asserting our second amendment rights my be the only solution. This is a basic Constitutional right. It should not be viewed as extreme. The point that I keep trying to make is that it is sad that there needs to be discussion of self protection such as this. It is inserted into your daily life because; Now my Larger POINT; There is social dysfunction. No one here asks why is this happening or increasing, instead many here are criticizing and sniping at each other. More dysfunction! I say part (extra emphasis on part , a portion) of the problem is ineffectual social programs.

The Higher the Deeper December 12, 2012 at 04:08 pm

According to the 2010 US Census the population of the City of Davis is 65,622. This does not include those living on campus. It appears as you will see in the following data that the town in mostly academic types. That is the purpose even of students presence here. According to Wikipedia whose source is claimed to be the UC Davis website there are as follows:
Academic staff 2,527 [2009 Fall] Admin. staff 21,372 [2009 Fall] Students 32,290 [2011 Fall] Undergraduates 24,847 [2011 Fall Postgraduates 7,443 [2011 Fall]

The Higher the Deeper December 12, 2012 at 04:32 pm

It is unfortunate that most people just blow off without knowing facts. The three strikes your out law for example, has put some in jail for life for writing bad checks or minor shoplifting while Murderers and Rapists are released often in seven years or less. Erwin Chemerinsky, the Dean of the UC Irvine School of Law plead this case to the US Supreme Court and lost. Upholding a law that also incarcerates some who have committed three petty crimes. I am not condoning any kind of crime as you should see by my comments above, rather I am saying we, as a group, need to work together to design safer environments and stop allowing things that don't work to continue. We must build social foundations and social programs that work. So many tax dollars have already been wasted and look where we are.

The Higher the Deeper December 12, 2012 at 07:26 pm

A little Sniping of my own: Staying Anonymous, English Prof. Really, Two 'Buts' in one Sentence? And beginning a sentence with But.... Syntax No, Nos. Funny you comment I am crazy, but you are talking about guns and letting the dogs loose on a mentally ill person. Hmm????

Staying Anonymous December 12, 2012 at 10:09 pm

Do you mean there are fewer rules? Do rules go away or not apply if we choose to ignore them?

Staying Anonymous December 12, 2012 at 11:50 pm

Are you proposing that it's immoral or inappropriate to defend yourself against someone who might be mentally ill? It's probably a valid assumption that anyone deranged or antisocial enough to commit armed robbery or break and enter is at least a little mentally ill or unstable and willing to take risks and endanger others. Remember the "Florida Zombie Face Eater"--are you going to delay implementing personal defense tactics because he might be a little crazy? I didn't say I'd "let the dogs loose" on a mentally ill person. I said that if they were working a trespasser or intruder over, I'd be inclined to be somewhat tolerant of the situation, and let them do their jobs.

Staying Anonymous December 12, 2012 at 11:52 pm

The statistics above say nothing about what percentage of each category live in Davis, whether on-campus or off, or utilize the greenbelt.

The Higher the Deeper December 13, 2012 at 12:18 am

It is not a legal defense, "I thought they might be mentally ill so I shot them. The law has specific elements for a self defense argument , then the rest is up to the jury. The often apply their own judgment as to whether they think you are credible. So the jury would decide whether the dogs were legal, as the law is not settled in CA on this issue.

The Higher the Deeper December 13, 2012 at 12:20 am

They all spend time in Davis. They all are exposed to the crime rate in Davis.

The Higher the Deeper December 13, 2012 at 12:24 am

I don't think it matters whether a gun is put in one's face on a bike path, the greenbelt or downtown.

The Higher the Deeper December 13, 2012 at 01:53 am

Sorry I mean, Grammar, syntax and punctuation rules do not apply to social media LOL- LMAO, U C? R U gtng it.
Kewl?

Staying Anonymous December 13, 2012 at 02:18 am

If some uninvited intruder comes into the fenced part of my yard or into my house with a ski mask on, he won't be able to leave under his own power.
End of story.

Staying Anonymous December 13, 2012 at 04:55 pm

"It's a wonderful thing, the destruction of words."
George Orwell, "1984"